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Qwen3.8-Flash-Next · Reading revised · 6 Sept 2026

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next weights offer a Qwen4 architecture preview

Qwen provides an experimental multimodal MoE preview and an FP8 variant. Its model card now specifies 125B language-model parameters with 6B active, plus 51B n-gram embeddings and 4B MTP parameters, under Qwen Community License 1.0.

The 6B active figure does not imply a 6B model’s memory footprint. The release is experimental. Its license requires separate permission for commercial use by businesses offering model services or defined AI work assistants, with an internal-use exception. We have not tested performance or cost improvements.

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THE FULL RECORD · Full timeline

17 events retained by the site.

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Qwen3.8-Flash-Next1 signal · Live
  1. On radarEntered the BitShovel radar: 50 entries visible on AIHOT featured at collection.
  2. On radarQwen3.8-Flash-Next weights offer a Qwen4 architecture preview
  3. Material changeVerified here: the ModelScope model page is live under the official name (title read confirmed); TechNode relays the official schedule noting the FP8 pair while specs remain undisclosed.
  4. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Kaitchup posted Qwen3.8 27B Benchmarks for quant" — lead via Reddit r/LocalLLaMA. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  5. Market lateralRelease watch (Qwen): "Qwen3.8-Max-0902 released" — lead via Reddit r/LocalLLaMA. Same-class release moves reshape expectations and alternatives.
  6. Market lateralRelease watch (Qwen): market chatter captured via AIHOT featured (headline in Chinese). Same-class release moves reshape expectations and alternatives.
  7. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): market chatter captured via AIHOT featured (headline in Chinese). Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  8. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Opencode vs Deepseek harness: my experience with" — lead via Reddit r/LocalLLaMA. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  9. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Alibaba's Qwen3.8-Max-0902 Tops Code Arena, Beat" — lead via alphasignal-daily. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  10. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Perplexity's Lily Beats MLX-LM by 1.35x Running " — lead via alphasignal-daily. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  11. Market lateralRelease watch (Qwen): "Perplexity open-sourced their Mac inference serv" — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class release moves reshape expectations and alternatives.
  12. Market lateralRelease watch (Qwen): "We open-sourced Paddock, our Rust/C++ inference " — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class release moves reshape expectations and alternatives.
  13. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Updated my benchmark with a new vLLM based recip" — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  14. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "I benchmarked 21 Qwen3.8 27B variants on 16GB VR" — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  15. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "Qwen3.8-27B on 2× RTX 5070 Ti 16GB — llama.cpp v" — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  16. Market lateralComparison (Qwen): "NInfer vs llama.cpp vs vLLM: quality + speed com" — lead via reddit-local-llama. Same-class comparisons and sentiment signal the market's relative standing.
  17. Market lateralRelease watch (Qwen): market chatter captured via ithome (headline in Chinese). Same-class release moves reshape expectations and alternatives.

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  • Qwen3.8-Flash-Next

    Upcoming official disclosures: concrete specs, benchmarks, license, and the Qwen4 family timeline

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Perplexity Lily · Uses · Qwen — Lily accepts only a pinned Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-4bit checkpoint. This does not imply support for the on-file Qwen3.8-Flash-Next or the whole Qwen family.UsesPerplexity LilyPerplexity LilyQwenQwenPerplexity Lily · Uses · Qwen — Lily accepts only a pinned Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-4bit checkpoint. This does not imply support for the on-file Qwen3.8-Flash-Next or the whole Qwen family.UsesPerplexity LilyPerplexity LilyQwenQwen